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ThunderinHammerdin · Jun 02, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Can anyone tell me the mods needed for a Caster Sword?

People in-game are being rude and telling me to check wiki, but theres no page for it. Someone please?

Yichi · Jun 02, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

The mods are normally a sword with +5 energy and either +20% enchants (which is dumb) or hp+30

obsidian ectoplasm · Jun 02, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Yichi

The mods are normally a sword with +5 energy and either +20% enchants (which is dumb) or hp+30

errr...why is 20% enchants dumb?

The forth fly · Jun 02, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

wouldn't be a caster sword with out the 20% ench

Ghostcell · Jun 02, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

errr...why is 20% enchants dumb?

he's prob. only thought about a caster sword for say an ele using an attunement as their only enchantment, in which case the +30 health is better.

aznhalf · Jun 02, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Because if you're casting enchantments you shouldn't be in your shield set anyways. 40 HCT/20 HRT/20 enchant staff is a good way to go for enchants in most cases.

In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better.

isamu kurosawa · Jun 02, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by The forth fly

wouldn't be a caster sword with out the 20% ench

A caster sword should only be used when casting mods are less important than survival. i.e. fortitude.

Use a staff for enchant casting.

TheLordOfBlah · Jun 02, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

usually a sword w. +5 energy, 30 health, always used as part of a "defensive" weapon set, for the shield you would have +30 health, +10 armor vs X damage type.

October Jade · Jun 02, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Do caster heroes use melee weapons effectively? I don't have access to GW right now, else I'd check myself. I am curious to know whether, for example, a sword+shield Vekk would be unnecessarily running into combat all the time.

This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.

Crom The Pale · Jun 02, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by October Jade

Do caster heroes use melee weapons effectively? I don't have access to GW right now, else I'd check myself. I am curious to know whether, for example, a sword+shield Vekk would be unnecessarily running into combat all the time.

This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.

If a hero has a weapon and is not set on Passive(last option) he will use that weapon to attack. If you give a melee weapon to a caster he will charge into melee range to use it.

Konig Des Todes · Jun 02, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52

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Originally Posted by October Jade

This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.

I only use caster martial weapons on my monks, in which avoid is the BEST option. Other casters, if given a martial caster weapon, should go to Guard+a Spear *for the distance*.

GaaaaaH · Jun 03, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I'd call a 'caster' mod +5 energy, 20% enchant.
not saying that its a good set, just thats what is usually meant.

This is similar to the 'perfect' 20/20, 15^50, 30hp set.

EDIT: If the buyers are being rude, tell them to GTFO and find someone nice to sell to.

Yichi · Jun 03, 2008, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by aznhalf

Because if you're casting enchantments you shouldn't be in your shield set anyways. 40 HCT/20 HRT/20 enchant staff is a good way to go for enchants in most cases.

In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better.

ding ding ding... we have a winner!

scythefromunder · Jun 03, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

I think question has been answered plenty of times. I give a +1.

xDusT II · Jun 03, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Most people use the "standard" caster sword because they are either too lazy to switch weapons for specific casts, or don't care about optimisation, or both.

Lady Lozza · Jun 03, 2008, 06:07 AM // 06:07

My understanding of the caster sword, as opposed to the defensive set, was that certain spells (in pve) were determined by the type of weapon you are carrying. Therefore by carrying a sword the enemy will preferentially cast empathy (rather than backfire) on you. This is just what I've been told by people calling me a "noob" for carrying and changing several caster sets in various dungeons - despite the fact I kept well out of casting range but that's another matter.

If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements

cataphract · Jun 03, 2008, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements

My ele always carries a sword. Looks way better than any wand.

DarkFlame · Jun 03, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

First of the caster martial weapons was the Totem Axe, which is +5 energy and +20% enchant. Like GaaaaaH said, it may not be all that good, but thats the first thing that comes to mind for caster moded martial weapons.

MStarfire · Jun 03, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by cataphract

My ele always carries a sword. Looks way better than any wand.

You should see a Ritualist cast with a sword!

tmakinen · Jun 03, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

To me, a 'caster sword' is any inscribable one-hand weapon with a requirement over 9 (and sometimes even that) ... it's the user's responsibility to mod it as s/he sees fit. There are several completely valid options:

+5e for most casters
10% HSR for elementalists who don't need that extra energy
+15% dmg/-5e if it's a part of a negative energy set (and there are more uses for that than just shielding from e-denial)

+30HP if it's a part of a shield set
+20% enchant for several farming builds that won't work without (and many of them also require a shield with a specific +10AL inscription so a staff is out of question)

My PvE ele has four different 'caster swords' (actually, just one sword and three spears) for specific purposes. Calling some option 'dumb' just because the person in question doesn't him/herself do things that require the particular option is pretty narrow-minded, now isn't it?

Jun 02, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#1
ThunderinHammerdin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Insidious Monochromtic Chimera Profession: W/Mo	Caster sword? Can anyone tell me the mods needed for a Caster Sword? People in-game are being rude and telling me to check wiki, but theres no page for it. Someone please?

Jun 03, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13	#20
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	To me, a 'caster sword' is any inscribable one-hand weapon with a requirement over 9 (and sometimes even that) ... it's the user's responsibility to mod it as s/he sees fit. There are several completely valid options: +5e for most casters 10% HSR for elementalists who don't need that extra energy +15% dmg/-5e if it's a part of a negative energy set (and there are more uses for that than just shielding from e-denial) +30HP if it's a part of a shield set +20% enchant for several farming builds that won't work without (and many of them also require a shield with a specific +10AL inscription so a staff is out of question) My PvE ele has four different 'caster swords' (actually, just one sword and three spears) for specific purposes. Calling some option 'dumb' just because the person in question doesn't him/herself do things that require the particular option is pretty narrow-minded, now isn't it?

Jun 02, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#2
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	The mods are normally a sword with +5 energy and either +20% enchants (which is dumb) or hp+30

Jun 02, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#4
The forth fly Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2008 Location: england Profession: Mo/	wouldn't be a caster sword with out the 20% ench

Jun 02, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16	#6
aznhalf Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005	Because if you're casting enchantments you shouldn't be in your shield set anyways. 40 HCT/20 HRT/20 enchant staff is a good way to go for enchants in most cases. In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better.

Jun 02, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#8
TheLordOfBlah Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Guild: None Profession: Mo/N	usually a sword w. +5 energy, 30 health, always used as part of a "defensive" weapon set, for the shield you would have +30 health, +10 armor vs X damage type.

Jun 02, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#9
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	Do caster heroes use melee weapons effectively? I don't have access to GW right now, else I'd check myself. I am curious to know whether, for example, a sword+shield Vekk would be unnecessarily running into combat all the time. This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.

Jun 03, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#12
GaaaaaH Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: W/	I'd call a 'caster' mod +5 energy, 20% enchant. not saying that its a good set, just thats what is usually meant. This is similar to the 'perfect' 20/20, 15^50, 30hp set. EDIT: If the buyers are being rude, tell them to GTFO and find someone nice to sell to.

Jun 03, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24	#14
scythefromunder Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA Guild: Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]	I think question has been answered plenty of times. I give a +1.

Jun 03, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51	#15
xDusT II Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne	Most people use the "standard" caster sword because they are either too lazy to switch weapons for specific casts, or don't care about optimisation, or both.

Jun 03, 2008, 06:07 AM // 06:07	#16
Lady Lozza Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oz Guild: Angel Sharks Profession: Me/N	My understanding of the caster sword, as opposed to the defensive set, was that certain spells (in pve) were determined by the type of weapon you are carrying. Therefore by carrying a sword the enemy will preferentially cast empathy (rather than backfire) on you. This is just what I've been told by people calling me a "noob" for carrying and changing several caster sets in various dungeons - despite the fact I kept well out of casting range but that's another matter. If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements

Jun 03, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29	#18
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	First of the caster martial weapons was the Totem Axe, which is +5 energy and +20% enchant. Like GaaaaaH said, it may not be all that good, but thats the first thing that comes to mind for caster moded martial weapons.